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Edit a family member's details in TNG

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  • Last modified on Sunday, 01 January 2017 15:57

When logged in, click the Edit tab on Individual page or the Edit link on the Last Modified line of the Person's individual data

Select Edit

Edit Person Dialog

which will return the Edit - Existing Person dialog Edit existing person details.jpg

where you can enter new information details. You can enter place names directly, or

Find Place

You can click the Find icon (as shown in the image above) to obtain the Find Person modal dialog where you can enter part of the place name and then click the Search button to search for the place.

Edit existing person find place.jpg

Source Citation

To enter source and citation details, click the Source button as shown in the following image

Edit Person Add Source

which will return Add Citations dialog. You will need to click the Add New button to add the first citation.

Add Citation

which returns the dialog where you enter the Source by selecting the Source name from the pull down and then add the Citation detail

Add Source and Citation

and then click the Finish button to complete the Source and Citation addition.

Finish citation.jpg

Add More, Notes

Edit Person dialog

You can click the More icon to add additional information on an event.

You can also click the Notes icon to add Notes for an event.

Don't forget to click the Save button when finish with your edits to save the updates.

Add Media

If you click the Add Media tab Edit existing person add media.jpg


it will launch the Admin >> Media >> Add New screen where you can add the media and then link it to the individual.

See Media - Add New and select Media Links in the Table of Contents.

If you add the media to an event, it will then show with that event on the Person's page, such as the the Christening event media shown in this image.

Individual with event linked media

House Rules

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  • Last modified on Friday, 06 January 2017 17:05

The TNG program allows all of us to contribute to the tree. It gives me the power to MAKE everyone else send me information or changes and then I let me DECIDE if it is good enough to add or not.

BUT I WON'T DO THAT.  The information collected in our family tree does not belong to me, it belongs to all of us. To be more exact it belongs to our descendants! As a result the program is set so that any family member who asks has the ability to add/change information in the database. 

But there are consequences and responsibilities of this power ...

1. Don't change things unless the correction is true!

  • Family history is by its nature unpleasantly honest. It  is full of issues or facts that each of us might wish were different or were secret, this makes the tree a work of fiction.  To me it is an important principle that our tree only contains facts, I propose this is the basis of all of our endeavours here.  Some family histories on Ancestry.com ignore this princple to protect people's feelings and as a result are so different from the facts that they effectively become fiction. One slight change and everything previous to the fiction incorrect too.
  • What this means is that facts in this database are as discovered, warts and all! There will be a temptation to change things that you think embarassing or not particuarly nice but please do not do this. Only CHANGE to correct information Never to hide it.  There will be ocassions when you decide that you know something that others shouldn't know, that is your choice but even then I would urge you to consider the loss of the information forever if you don't record it. There may be ways later that I can put time delays or something on some facts but at the moment things are IN or OUT.  
  • What will never be acceptable (or possible) is changing things that are in the database that are correct but you would rather we don't know. If anything is changed from a fact that we have documented then I reserve the right to put it back to what it was (a bit like Wikipaedia!).
  • If you make a big mistake and delete things you would rather not have, let me know as soon as possible and I can retrieve it.

2. Document where you aren't  sure!

  • Where you aren't sure about a fact please make sure you add a note to say who added the fact and what your reservations are. For example see the note I have placed on the connection between James Kilkie and George Kilkie. If there are questions you have about a fact or facts then also add a note. Remember that ONLY family members see the database - but also remember that ALL family members. It is better to document too much than too little.  
  • When you add a note, add your name at the end and remember this is a database where most of us share one of a few surnames, so put your birthyear at the end e.g. Martin Kilkie(1955).

3. Be polite!

  • I am sure it doesnt need overstating but many generations (hopefully) will use this database. Be direct in your notes here and on the Social wall but remember it may be read by any other member of the family. This doesnt mean secrets, but it suggests we are careful with the language used.


  • I am very keen to not only develop this common resource but to build a small army of family members who can take the job onto the next (and the next) generation. This requires we agree some common rules.  If you don't like the rules then please suggest improvements, they will be gratefully received. We need consensual rules. If you are interested in helping develop the resource, or even taking responsiblity for some part of it then please ask.




How do the guides work?

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  • Last modified on Tuesday, 03 January 2017 14:05

TNG has many different ways to do things but I am going to begin by explaining the most useful methods.

  • All of the guides to TNG will have many options I don't explain, I just show the simple thing that works.
  • Later on you can try the other options.
  • Also my explanations are quite detailed in case you need the detail. if you know what you are doing skip ahead and ignore parts you understand already.

Guides are quite long. This is deliberate but it does mean that it is hard to follow when you are using TNG at the same time. I recommend either using the guide in one window with TNG in another, or even better - print the guide out then follow it.


How to add "media" to the tree

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  • Last modified on Saturday, 31 December 2016 19:38

1. GO to TNG and get to the individual you want to add a photo to then:

Make sure you are on the "Individual" tab. Tabs show under the person's name as shown below.

tng individual tabs

If you are on the right tab it shows blue. to move to the "indivdual" tab from another tab just click on "individual".

2. Next click on Add Media (which covers photos, videos etc.) This is on the right hand end of the list under "Individual" tab

This opens a new browser window/tab with quite a long set of options that I will take you through one stage at a time:

Stage 1. Which photo?:

add media part 1

Click on Choose file and find the photo on your computer.  For example here I have found the photo of my mum and my cousin Billy.

find file

Click on the one you are interested in (img229) in this case and then click the Open button. Now ignore all the other buttons and options and move to

Stage 2 - Describe whats on the photo

add media part 2

The more information you fill in here the better. By all means leave things you don't know yet blank. You can add or change things later.  

  • TITLE: Give the photo a title. Dont make it too long but not Just "Billy" something like "Martin Kilkie causes trouble" is better.
  • DESCRIPTION: Next add a DESCRIPTION. This can be longer e.g. "Martin Kilkie and his brother Bernie are causing trouble for their mum by eating all the cake."
  • OWNER/SOURCE: Next if possible  say who has the actual physical photo - you or someone else. E.g. "Ros Docherty's photo".
  • DATE TAKEN/CREATED: Next if you know when the photo was taken add this in the Date Taken/Created box, e.g. "September 1944"
  • Next click the Always viewable tick box. This lets everyone else see the photo.
  • Finally click the save and continue button.

Stage 3 - Link the photo to the correct person/people

Without you doing anything the name of the person you were looking at is added automatically. If this is the only person in the photo then this bit is done. But if there are others you need to add them by clicking on the magnifying glass (FIND Button). 

 add media part 3

This pop up will appear. Type in the name of the other person you want to add to the photo. When you find them click the Add by their name.

find link

If there are others add them to the  list in the same way then click finish.

Stage 4 - Where was the event in the photo?

Last stage is to "geocode" the photo. This is not essential but it is easy and adds a lot to the information. 

add media part 4

Type in the location of the photo in the Place taken/Created box. Then click Show/Hide clickable map. If the address you typed in makes sense to Google it will appear on the map. I find that you usually need to remove any house number or even give a more general address, e.g. in this case Glasgow, Scotland or Penilee Glasgow, Scotland. 

Once it gets an address it recognises it turns it into Latitude and longitude numbers.

Stage 5 - Finish

Phew. Now all you have to do is click the Save button at the bottom of the screen. Finally remember this was a new window/tab so shut this window/tab and you are back where you started. Well done.  PS the photo will not show as added until you exit and re-enter the program.



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  • Last modified on Friday, 06 January 2017 19:07

This page is a questions and answers approach to using the new family tree site.  The idea is that family members will ask questions (on SOCIAL) and I will use the answers to develop a list of questions and answers here. Also notice that a full help menu appears on this and update pages. I recommend you read the help pages in another tab in your browser whilst using the tree, or even print the help guide if that is useful (I provide a version of each guide as a PDF for printing).

Q: What should I do first?

A: I recommend playing with the tree in TNG.

  • Start by finding yourself and your family (from the Surnames menu item?), then your ancestors.
  • Spot any errors and let me know and once you feel ready to change them yourself. I will make regular backups so you can change without worrying you might break anything.
  • Also have a look at the various photos and other media - I really want you all to dig out all your photos and other memorabilia and scan them in. If any of you havent got the time or resources then you can post them to me and I will scan them then return the items.

Q: Who else can see our private family information.

A: Don't panic everything is private. 

  • Remember that almost all the information on family history is freely available now, but you can be confident that our site is only open to registered family members.
  • The site is protected against hacks and only individuals who can show a clear interest in our specific ancestors and relatives will be given a login. 
  • Obviously you need to think carefully about the language you use on the site but family history is about sharing the truth, not keeping secrets.

Q: What should we share on Kilkie.org?

A: Anything and everything you want.

  • As our site is so private we can share information that facebook and other places wouldnt be right for.
  • In addition there is no reason why family children shouldnt be given their own accounts. There is a growing trend in family history to let youngsters ask us oldies questions, they are more searching and less embarassed than us. My saddest reflections are that I didnt ask questions of many of our older relatives before it was too late. It isnt too late for your children. Also remember that what you consider your childhood is to your children their family history. 
  • I strongly request that you put lots of those old photographs in your cupboards and boxes onto the family history. We are just on the cusp when no-one will have physical photos anymore and sharing is easier anyway. If in doubt put it on the site, we have terabytes of space.




TNG menus

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  • Last modified on Friday, 06 January 2017 13:04

TNG is a run by menus and it is obvious(?) what most do. Plus TNG has very good built in help. This article just summarises the menus and shows you where they are.

1. The front screen menu

When you start TNG from within Kilkie.org you are shown this screen:

tng main menu

Search: Let's you search for family members.
Surnames: Find someone by their name.
Login: You need to login before you can use any of the TNG features.
Register: You need to register before you login. This is different from the login to the main website.
Whats new: The most recent changed individuals, new photos etc.
Most wanted: Here you can add questions or photos you are looking for help to find out about.
Places: This is a list of all the places linked to our family tree.
Notes: There are MANY notes attached to individuals to make them more interesting.
Dates: Arranges the tree in date order or lets you search for events on a particular date
Calendar: Shows a calendar with birthdays etc.
Photos: Shows all the photos in the database or lets you search for some
Documents: Listof certificates etc.
Headstones: Details of headstones of family individuals
Histories: Lists individual family histories - More on this later.
Recordings: Audio recordings we might make, e.g. getting younger family to interview older ones.
Videos: Video recordings we might make.
All media: Lets you search all media at one time.
Albums: More on this later.
Reports: Lets us create summaries of the family for your use.
Cemetaries: Details of the main cemeteries used for our family.
Statistics: Statistics on the family tree
Sources: Lists the various official records we use to document our family history
Repositories: Online resources for family history used in our researches.
Place Map: Lets you look at how our family is spread across the world.
Access Log: Shows what we have been doing to the information
Administration: Gets you to the admin menu (see later).

2. The top menu

Wherever you are in TNG there is a menu at the top of the screen that takes you back to the rest of our site but under that is a thin menu giving you quick access to most things you want to do:

top menu

Notice the three menus: Find, Media and Info - these give drop down lists that let you do everything without having to go back to the main menu. Also notice that Home and Search are  always there too.

3. The Admin menu

admin menu

Almost everybody gets this menu too. We might decide that youngsters can look but not change things etc but at present all users can add and change things by default. The admin menu lets you add new people familes and media quicker than going through the main menu. If you get lost remember the home button.





What is TNG?

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  • Last modified on Thursday, 05 January 2017 22:17

TNG is short for The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilding,  a fantastic program produced by Darrin Lythgoe in the United States and provided to family historians at almost nil cost (20$).  You will see me use TNG whenever I talk about our family tree and I mean this program and what it does.

In addition to being an excellent program it has a community of hundreds of users who add their own bits and solve problems. I am really positive that it will make our own family history site grow and prosper. 

Good points:

  • The program covers everything I can think off including details of individuals, photos, documents, sources and other media. It even allows for addition of DNA analyses which we will need to consider in the near future to help join our few disconnected branches.
  • It shows information in a number of standard formats including tables, charts and reports without you having to know how it does this.
  • It allows branches which lets individuals who are interested develop their own branches of the main family tree. This means that family members who obviously have their own branches (e.g. I have inherited the FIELD history shared only with my children via my wife Sarah FIELD). I can happily add to this, others might want to help develop BOYLE, DOCHERTY, EHEMANN etc). The Kilkie part stays as the joining surname but each branch becomes semi-autononomous.
  • Management, backup, security etc is all built in. I can keep outsiders out and ensure that if everything goes wrong I can restart in less than an hour.
  • The support from over two hundred other individuals in other groups means that I get help within minutes when I want to do something new.


  • None really except TNG is so useful that there are a lot of menus.
  • You need to get used to the way it does things
  • I need to make sure I let you do things but protect you from making accidental changes to the whole tree.
  • I need some other volunteers a) to help with maintenance and b) to ensure the family project continues, particularly to the next generation.

Over the near future we need to use the features in TNG to check all of the work we have done is collected and also that we add all the mishmash of photos and other bits we have lying in cupboards. The biggest problem with any family history is that people don't realise that today's photos and events for us are our decendents's family history.


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